🌶 Hot debatesunmi said before lia kim kpop choreo was just cool dancing and after her it became a story. fair??

Not fair to 2nd gen imo. Sorry Sorry, Gee, Abracadabra had a story and a concept too. She made it more character-driven, sure, but don't erase my childhood

As a cover dancer, her stuff is the easiest to recognize in 2 seconds and the hardest to copy with the right feeling. The gashina finger gun is simple until you see people do it without the attitude

TT, Very Very Very and 24 Hours from the same person is a crazy run. I need to find this documentary

Asking juniors if you can join their projects when you're already known... that kind of humility is why I trust her work

1MILLION videos were the first Korean dance content a lot of my non-kpop friends ever watched. Her name goes way beyond idol choreo here

lol true, that finger gun never left

Is the EBS episode up anywhere with English subs?

Vocab: 포인트 안무 (point anmu) = the signature move everyone copies. Learned it from exactly this kind of argument

Fair. TT hands are still in my muscle memory and I've never even been that into TWICE

the gashina finger gun living in my head since 2017 is so real I'm crying

Which TWICE song was the first one she did?

Point choreo as character writing makes sense to me. The move has to tell you who the person is in one second, same as a good hook

The 7 to 8 year slump is what stays with me. Going to younger dancers and asking to learn when you're already a name takes more guts than any choreo

"Before her it was just cool dancing" is the kind of line that works in a documentary and falls apart the moment you list actual 2nd gen choreo

As a ONCE I'd like to thank her for the TT pose, which I have done in every photo since 2016, including a failed passport attempt

does she still choreograph for idols now or mostly run the studio?

is kany the one who did the girls planet stuff?

Gashina works because the styling and the move tell the same story. The suit, the hair, the finger gun. Everything points the same way, literally

1MILLION was how I found dance covers in the first place. Huge respect for her whole team

Lia Kim didn't just make choreo, she made chore-OH-wow. I'll go

The slump part is what I'll remember. Being known and still going back to learn from younger dancers is so rare

Sunmi said one nice thing and the comment section instantly turned into a history exam

is the documentary on EBS's YouTube or only the TV?

Not fair to 2nd gen. Very fair to 3rd gen. Both things in one sentence

What do you call a choreographer who tells stories? A plot twister

The documentary title "Witnessing the Era" is so dramatic but she kind of earned it

I tried the TT pose for a photo once and my friend asked if I was okay

A 7 year slump and she came back by learning from younger people. That's the most inspiring thing I read today

Fun fact for foreigners: 1MILLION was one of those places Korean office workers took weekend classes at, just to feel cool for an hour. Me included

she deserves this documentary, congrats to her and the whole team!!

Point choreo matters even more now because of short-form. A move has to land in a 15 second clip or it doesn't travel

Going to rewatch the TT practice video now. Strictly for research

The finger gun aged better than half the songs from that year

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Sunmi asked her for 24 Hours and the rest is history. Or should I say the rest is choreography

Grabs popcorn. A documentary called Witnessing the Era and the comments immediately start a generation war. Perfect content

"Before, it was cool dancing" makes me want to hum "nobody nobody but you" just to annoy everyone

Lia Kim didn't just choreograph, she directed the sequel

Vocab: 슬럼프 (seulleompeu) is just slump, borrowed straight from English. But 초심 (chosim), your beginner's mind, is what she went back to

The Gashina finger gun is the only choreo my mom recognizes. That's reach

*screams* the 24 hours finger point at the end, Sunmi asking her personally makes so much sense now

the EBS series is called 시대의 목격자 in korean if anyone wants to search for clips, that's how i'd find it

The fair version of Sunmi's line would be "after her, point choreo became the plot." 2nd gen had iconic moves, but they were more hooks than characters. Gashina is a person with a backstory

She didn't just set the bar, she raised the barre

Seventeen has their own in-house choreo with Hoshi, so this is a fun reminder that idol dance can come from so many directions

Point choreo is like a goal celebration. Everyone remembers the celebration, nobody remembers the passing that built it

My cousin in Busan still does the TT hands every time someone takes a photo. She's 34. Lia Kim built a national reflex

The Gashina suit plus the finger gun is still one of the best styling and choreo matches ever. You could draw it in three lines and everyone would know

In Japan 1MILLION's videos were how a lot of dance school kids got into K-pop. Her studio was almost its own genre

Rookies right now are growing up on her choreo videos. Whatever you think of the quote, her influence is in every new debut

I'm crying at the slump part. Being already famous and asking younger dancers if you can join and learn? That's real humility

Devil's advocate the other way: maybe 2nd gen fans are mad because she's right. Abracadabra had attitude, but did it have a story?

Unpopular: the quote is unfair to the choreographers who never got documentaries. Lia Kim is great, but plenty of people built that era quietly

The very very very choreo is the one I can still do start to finish. My body remembers it better than my phone number

Newbie here, is there a playlist somewhere with her best-known choreos? I want to see the 'story' part for myself

As a 2nd gen fan I'm offended for exactly four seconds and then I remember I did the TT hands in every photo in 2016